The importance of Wills in identifying relationships is often necessary to document relationships such as marriages when no other document is available. This Will confirmed the marriage of two brothers David and Peter Weatherwax to two sisters Helena, and Catharina Cipperly/Sipperly. No other marriage record has yet been found for them. Since neither David or Peter could write no family Bible record has been found to confirm this relationship. What is known is both families were in fact Palatines arriving in 1710, and both families originally settled in East Camp (Present day Germantown NY . So this Will is a legal document confirming the marriages of these two couple..
Will of Michael Cipperly of Schaghticoke, probated 3 May 1791.

In the name of God Amen. I, MICHAEL CIPPERLY of Schaghticoke, County of Albany and State of New York, being weak in Body and of great age but of sound and perfect memory (Blessed be the Almighty for the same), do make this my last will and testament in the manner and form following.
First I deliver my soul to the Almighty God from whence it came and my Body to the Earth to be buried in a decent and Christianlike manner.
As for my worldly affares [sic] and state which the Lord had Blessed me I bequeath in the form following (that is to say)
First I give and bequeath to my beloved son JACOB CIPPERLY and beloved daughter CATHARINE WEATHERWAX, wife to PETER WEATHERWAX all the land and tenements that I now am the owner of, to be divided equally between them after my Decease and the decease of my wife REGINA CIPPERLY.
Secondly I give and bequeath to the rest of my children the following sums of money to be paid to them one year after mine and my wife's decease by the above mentioned two of my Children, Jacob Cipperly and Catharine Weatherwax in the manner and form hereafter prescribed - to my beloved son BARENT CIPPERLY they are to pay the sum of one hundred pounds equally between them the sum of ten pounds per year and after the expiration of ten years if not paid or any part thereof with lawful interest till paid.
Thirdly I give and bequeath to my son JOHN CIPPERLY the sum of one hundred pounds in the same condition and terms aforesaid to Barent -
Fourthly I give and bequeath to my son HENRY CIPPERLY to be paid in the same manner and form aforesaid.
Fifthly I give and bequeath to my daughter SUSANNA the sum of one hundred pounds to be paid in the same manner and forms aforesaid.
Sixthly I give and bequeath to my daughter HELENA wife to DAVID WEATHERWAX the sum of one hundred pounds to be paid in the same manner and form aforesaid and also one brass kettle.
Seventhly I give and bequeath to my daughter MARY BARBARA the sum of eighty pounds which [--?--] I have against her husband CHRISTIAN FRANKLIN.
Eighthly I give and bequeath to PHILLIP CIPPERLY twenty shillings after my decease.
Ninthly I give and bequeath to my granddaughter REGINA CIPPERLY twenty shillings to be paid after my decease.
Tenthly I bequeath all my [blacksmith's tools?] to my son JACOB CIPPERLY.
Eleventhly I give and bequeath to my son BARENT CIPPERLY the sum of four pounds out of my personal estate after it is divided
Lastly I give all the remainder part of my estate to all my children to be equally divided between them after my decease and the decease of my wife except for my son PHILLIP CIPPERLY and my granddaughter REGINA CIPPERLY, they shall have no more than the twenty shillings I have willed to them.
I hereby nominate and appoint my trusty and loving friends JOHN SNIDER and JACOB WEATHERWAX executors of this my last will and Testament revoking hereby all former wills by me made,
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 17th day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety.
His
Michael M. C. Cipperly
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This Will and other wills of the family can be found on the USGENWEB.com website for Rensselaer co NY. I have posted my transcriptions of other Weatherwax family Wills on this website.

Updated family of Andrew G. Weatherwax Herkimer co. NY

Family Group Sheet
Subject* Andrew G. Weatherwax (2139) Name-Var: __ ___ ____ Andreas Weatherwax Birth* 21 May 1771 Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, NY. Baptism: 6 Jun 1771 Schaghticoke Reformed Chbk, Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, NY. Marriage* circa __ ___ 1791 NY. Widowed* 12 Nov 1830 Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Death* __ ___ 1851 Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Father* Jacob Weatherwax (25) (b. 28 Jun 1743, d. 15 Sep 1822) Mother* Catherina Grauberger (459) (b. 21 Oct 1751, d. 9 Aug 1829) Spouse* Margaret Clark (2140) Birth* __ ___ ____ Death* 21 Nov 1830 Little Falls, Herkimer, New York. Father* Mother* Nine Known Children F Anna Weatherwax (13360) Birth* circa __ ___ 1792 New York. F Catherine Weatherwax (3819) Birth* __ ___ 1798 Herkimer, NY. Marriage* 17 Dec 1817 Benjamin Phillips Churchill (3820) (b. Jun 1797,          ), son of Isaac Churchill (3821) and Nancy Phillips (3822); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Son: 10 Jun 1818 Albert Churchill (4488); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Daughter: 10 Apr 1822 Catherine Churchill (4490); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Daughter: 2 May 1828 Margaret Churchill (4491); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Daughter: 22 Mar 1831 Cordelia Churchill (4493); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Son: __ Mar 1833 George Churchill (4495); Little Fallls, Herkimer, NY. Son: 28 Feb 1838 Jacob Churchill (4496); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. M Benjamin Weatherwax (1727) Name-Var: __ ___ ____ Benjamin Wetherwax Birth* 13 Jan 1801 NewYork. Marriage* 1 Sep 1825 Lovica Ford (1728) (b. 15 May 1803, d. 22 Nov 1855), daughter of Benjamin Ford jr. (1729) and Thankful Griswold (1730); Herkimer, NY. Daughter: 20 Oct 1826 Mary Ann Weatherwax (2461); Herkimer, New York. Son: 29 Nov 1829 James Henry Weatherwax (2462); Manhein, Herkimer, NY. Son: 15 Jan 1831 Andrew G. Weatherwax (2463); Herkimer, NY. Daughter: 15 Apr 1833 Margaret J. Weatherwax (2464); NY. Son: 15 Nov 1836 Benjamin Ford Weatherwax (2465); Herkimer, NY. Son: 26 Aug 1839 Charles D. Weatherwax (2466); NewYork. Daughter: 7 Dec 1841 Charlotte C. Weatherwax (2467); Little Falls, Herkimer, NewYork. Daughter: 30 Apr 1843 Catharine Weatherwax (2468); Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Daughter: 18 Sep 1848 Cornelia Weatherwax (2469); Little Falls, Herkimer, New York. Marriage* 24 May 1857 Nancy Keller (10424) (b. 1808, d. 23 Mar 1872); Christian Ambassador,Auburn dtd: 11Apr 1857, Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Death* 6 Dec 1866 Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. F Lydia Weatherwax (3827) Birth* 15 Sep 1803 NY. Marriage* circa __ ___ 1824 Henry Churchill (3826) (b. 5 Jan 1804, d. 12 Apr 1881), son of Isaac Churchill (3821) and Nancy Phillips (3822); Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Marriage* circa __ ___ 1828 Henry Churchill (3826) (b. 5 Jan 1804, d. 12 Apr 1881), son of Isaac Churchill (3821) and Nancy Phillips (3822); Homer, Calhoun, MI. Daughter: __ ___ 1829 Charlotte Churchill (10529); NY. Daughter: __ ___ 1838 Juliet Churchill (10530); NY. Son: __ ___ 1840 Henry Churchill jr. (10531); Homer, Calhoun, MI. Death* 27 Dec 1893 Homer, Calhoun, Michigan. F Mary W. Weatherwax (23460) Birth* 13 May 1807 Herkimer, Herkimer, NY.
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Marriage* circa __ ___ 1834 David Sharer (23461) (b. 2 Apr 1803, d. 29 Dec 1890), son of Peter Sharer (23462) and Maria Thumb (23463) Daughter: 19 May 1836 Julia Sharer (23464); Licking, OH. Son: 29 Jul 1839 Francis H. Sharer (23465); Union, Licking, OH. Daughter: circa __ ___ 1842 Cordelia Sharer (23466); Union, Licking, OH. Son: __ ___ 1845 Irvin Sharer (23467); Union, Licking, OH. Son: circa __ ___ 1851 Edwin Sharer (23468); Union, Licking, OH. Burial* 3 Aug 1882 Maple Grove cemetery, Granville, Licking, OH. Death* 3 Aug 1882 Union, Licking, OH. M John Myers Bauer Weatherwax (2126) Birth* 4 Jul 1811 Manheim, Herkimer, NY. Baptism: 6 Oct 1811 Old Yellow Church, Manheim, Herkimer, NY. Marriage* 14 Mar 1836 Elizabeth Letts (2127) (b. 14 Apr 1816, d. 17 Aug 1850), daughter of John Letts (12594) and Mary Ann Allen (14762); Shelby, Orleans, NY. Daughter: 9 Apr 1838 Mary Ann Weatherwax (2128); Homer, Calhoun, MI. Son: 31 Jul 1840 Charles Henry Weatherwax (2129); Homer, Calhoun, MI. Son: __ ___ 1842 unamed Weatherwax (2130); Homer, Calhoun, Michigan. Daughter: __ ___ 1844 Julia Catherine Weatherwax (2131); Homer, Calhoun, Michigan. Daughter: 19 Sep 1846 Sarah Charlotte Weatherwax (2134); Homer, Calhoun, MI. Son: 4 Aug 1848 John Jacob Weatherwax (2132); Homer, Calhoun, Michigan. Son: 9 Aug 1850 Wallace Weatherwax (2133); Homer, Calhoun, Michigan. Widowed* 17 Aug 1850 Mud Springs, El Dorado, CA. Marriage* 2 Jun 1852 Serena (Lena) Jackson (2135) (b. 1821, d. 1863); Sacramento, San Francisco, CA. Son: 15 Dec 1852 Walter Weatherwax (2136); Mud Springs Township, El Dorado, CA. Daughter: 14 Jul 1856 Bertha Weatherwax (2137); Mud Springs, El Dorado, California. Marriage* 20 Aug 1865 Mary B. Tyler (2138) (b. 1821, d. 22 Oct 1897); Sacramento, San Francisco, California. Death* 13 Aug 1878 Sacramento, Sacramento, CA. Burial* 15 Aug 1878 City Cemetery, Sacramento, CA. M John Weatherwax (13391) Birth* 4 Jul 1811 Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. Death* 6 Oct 1811 Little Falls, Herkimer, NY. M Jacob A. Weatherwax (2510) Name-Var: __ ___ ____ Jacob Weatherwax Birth* 18 Jan 1818 Herkimer, Herkimer, NY. Baptism: 1 May 1818 Dutch Reformed Church, Herkimer, Herkimer, NY. Marriage* 14 Jan 1847 Mary T. Dickson (2070) (b. 1828,          ); Mobile, AL. Daughter: __ ___ 1848 Catherine Weatherwax (10724); Mississippi. Death* 29 Dec 1848 New York Evening Post Newspaper, New Orleans, Orleans, LA. Son: __ ___ 1849 Jacob A. Weatherwax jr. (4201); MS. Burial* __ ___ 1849 Dutchess, NY. M Andrew L. Weatherwax (10747) Birth* __ ___ 1821 Herkimer, NY. Marriage* __ ___ 1856 Elizabeth Holcomb (10748); Danube, Herkimer, New York. Death* after __ ___ 1857
Printed on: 27 Sep 2015 Prepared by: Wayne E. Weatherwax 47 Hopkins Road Westfield,. 01085 n03369@comcast.net weatherwaxgenealogyblog.blogspot.com
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Will of John Roscoe Wetherwax dated: 18 Jan 1913

ref: Herkimer co NY. Will book vol 39-41, pages 142-143
Probated Herkimer co Court on 15 Nov 1915
Transcription by: Wayne E. Weatherwax on Sep.4,2015

I John Roscoe Wetherwax of Manheim, Herkimer co NY being of sound disposing mind and memory do make publish and declare this to be my last Will and Testament that is to say:
First I direct my Executor herein named to pay out of my estate my lawful debts and funeral expenses.
Second I give devise and Bequeath unto my brother  James F. Wetherwax two thirds of all of my property, and unto my nephew James H. Wetherwax one third of all my property.
Third  I hereby appoint James F. Wetherwax to be my executor of this my Will & revoke all former Wills.
Fourth I give and bequeath unto my nephew James H. Wetherwax my gold watch and chain and except the same from the above bequests.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal the 18 January, 1913
                                                                  John Roscoe Wetherwax

Witness: Charles J. Palmer- Little Falls,Herk co.,NY
               Richard Hurley    -Little Falls,Herk co.NY

Great new on Ancestry.com. They have begun posting Wills and Probate records on their website. This is a great resource for searching family history. A quick check this morning revealed many states now available, not all yet fully indexed. I did a quick search and ended up with about 50 pages of Wills and probate records to add to my database. Many were in far away states in the West where I would never get to local records to check. These of photo and microfilm images of original documents so are a primary source. Also remember to use the various spelling variations not just Weatherwax! i.e. Wetherwax,Witherwax,Weatherwalk,Watherwax etc.

For me the good news was finding the Probate file of J.D. Weatherwax in MT. This files confirms my belief that J.D.,s son Edward T. Weatherwax failed to mention or include J.D. Weatherwax's native wife Tailfeather Woman and their Blackfeet children as lawful heirs to his estate, but claimed the whole estate for himself and his brother. Not being a lawyer I dont know if this was legal at that time (1887). Also be aware many of these files have numerous documents, some as few as one or two. So you will have to go through and select the most pertinent ones to use.
Good hunting

For those of you who are using the Social Security Application and Claims index a word of caution!. Be careful and make doubly sure that the data listed on the right side of the screen i.e. SSDI ,US Census citations etc is an exact match. I have found many individuals with the same given name have the wrong Census or SSDI citation attached. Just proceed with caution. There were over 600 hits when I searched this DB just using the spelling WEATHERWAX, no other variation that was 35 pages of family members etc. I am just over half way with 12 more pages to verify. This is still a solid effort many missed dates,missed children, maiden names etc have appeared using this tool, as well as data on parents of those who married a Weatherwax family member.

Ancestry.com has placed online the SSACI Social Security Application and claims Index 1936-2007. Unlike the old SSID (Death index) this new index includes any claim made to Social Security such as : name change due to marriage, name of parents,name at application for SSAN, name at death etc.. This is proving to be an excellent source for maiden names,parents names DoB, DoD etc. Be aware however that not everyone will appear only those who made a claim or application of submitted a name change etc will show. Another new valuable tool in your genealogical research. Don't have an Ancestry subscription? Go to your local library most now have a Library subscription you can use for free.

Weatherwax family ancestral  land search in Rensselaer County New York.

Previous research by Arthur Johnson a descendant of Isaac Johnson husband of Betsey Weatherwax identified the location of the Land purchased by Andreas (Andrew) Weatherwax in 1765 as lying under the existing  Tomhannock Reservoir in Rensselaer county  NY.

This research is not supported by sources in Johnson's limited published work. He only sites several geologic maps without reference to why they were selected.. There is little or no correlation with the Known published Will of Andrew Weatherwax (the immigrant's son) or known locations and deed of other family members

The Will of Andrew Weatherwax probated in 1784 and found in Fernow's Calendar of Wills states the following regarding the disposition of lands and deeds granted to his children.

1. "To my son Hannes- 231 &3/4 acres of land wheron he now lives in Tamhanick." "He having a deed for the land from me already."

2. "To Martin Widderwax- the farmhouse whereon I now dwell in Tamhanick at the extent of a farm surveyed for Alexander Widderwax containing 235 & 1/2 acres."

Although Andrew's Will gives further disposition of lands to his other children these two provisions of the Will provide sources that lead to the identifying the current location of the lands in Question.

Clearly based on #2 Martin Widderwax (Weatherwax) inherited his father Andrew's farm of 235&1/2 acres of land. Subsequent land records will show the location of this property today.

It must be remembered when doing land searches in New York that most land was in one huge county called Albany county. Rensselaer County NY was not broken off from Albany county until 1792. So when researching land that was purchased or deeded prior to 1792 the Land records of Albany county must be consulted to provide a continuous chain of ownership for lands being searched.

Hannes Widderwax (Weatherwax)

Johannes or Hanes Weatherwax was the first born son of Andrew Weatherwax by his 2nd marriage to Jo Anna Edeli. His exact date of birth is not found, but other documentation indicates a dob of 1740. He married Anna Premmer abt 1761. He died 11 Mar 1818 in Schaghticoke, Rensselaer co. NY. He had seven known children. The son Andrew Weatherwax b:9 Sep 1766 provides the chain of land ownership from his father Hannes to Andrew's son John A. Weatherwax b:1794. His son was John A. Weatherwax b:4 Sep 1841

Additionally the approved S.A.R. application of John P. Weatherwax clearly indicates the land in question remained within the family until  the last parcel was sold by him in 1972.

Contained in the holdings of the Rensselaer county Historical society is the family Bible of John A. Weatherwax this Bible provides a clear consistent line of descent to John Peer Weatherwax b:23 Sep 1904, d:28 Jun 1991. These papers containing over 15 boxes of documents, photos and family records provide a chain of land ownership that points to the location of this land on Weatherwax lane in present day Schaghticoke, Rensselaer co. NY.

Deed found, Albany co. Deeds, Book 9, page402 for lot "H" containing 233 acres and 3 rods.

Deed dated 2 Dec 1772 and recorded on 25 Apr 1774

Grantor: Andrew Weatherwax  (the original immigrants son)

Grantee: Johannis Wederwax

original record was examined by myself in Albany County Clerk's office on April 19,2013. This record  does not specify anything that would indicated the present day location of the land in question.

Deed found, Rensselaer co Deeds, Book 267, page 6

Deed dated: 17 Apr 1899

Grantor: John  A. Weatherwax b:1794

Grantee: Freeman C. Weatherwax b:31 Aug 1868

140 acres of land located in Schaghticoke

Another Deed found Book 330, pg25 indicates that Freeman Cooper Weatherwax and wife Edith sold some of this land to his brother William M. Weatherwax on 22 Oct 1910.

Upon Freeman C. Weatherwax's death on 3 Feb 1953 the remaining parcel of original land passed through inheritance to his son John Peer Weatherwax and his sisters Louis W. Austin and Esther W. Sykes.

Utilizing the 1976 Rensselaer County New York Tax maps for the town of Schaghticoke  indicated   a parcel of property on "Weatherwax Lane" , at the junction of Gunbadt Road. A cross reference to property sales indicated that John P. Weatherwax sold property in 1972  A surveyed plot map with information confirmed  that the property at this location was sold by John Peer Weatherwax and his sisters. The  Schaghticoke  Tax Map #041.00 clearly indicates the property in question and also indicates that the 10.66 acres sold was part of the original 231+ acres of the original patent. This last parcel of land owned by Hannes Weatherwax's decendants was sold  based on a land survey dated  26 Jun 1972 and registered on 11 Jul 1971. The land was sold to James A. and Caroll Jennison of Schaghticoke.

This then confirms along with other documentation that Andrew Weatherwax's purchase of 1/3 of a parcel of land  encompassing 8602 acres on the East bank of the Hudson which was transacted in 1765 was in fact located in present day Schaghticoke, not Pittstown NY. It appears that the Northern boundary was along Tomhannock creek. Some indications are that the patent continued southward to the Deep Kill. In total on his death Andrew parceled out a total of  about 2800 acres of land, reserving 800 acres to pay for anything due on the whole patent.

Andrew Weatherwax's original farm of 235 1/2 acres which was deeded to his son Martin Weatherwax 1741-1813.

Martin Weatherwax bap:13 Jan 1741; d:27 May 1813.

Martin Weatherwax and his brother David Weatherwax (1747-1831), both these brothers sold their Rensselaer county farms and moved to Peru, Clinton county NY by 1794. Clearly in 1796 both appear in Road tax lists for the town of Peru, Clinton co. NY. No record of the sale or transfer of David's property has yet been found. But evidence exist based on land purchases in Clinton co NY that both bought 300 acres farms in Peru on the Western shore of Lake Champlain

Deed found: Rensselaer county Deeds Book 1, pg.44 (First Deed book of the new Rensselaer co. NY)

This deed date 29 Nov 1792 clearly indicates that the

Grantor Martinus Weatherwax

Grantee: Benjamin Holt

purchased land on 185 1/2 acres on 29 Nov 1792

then on 23 May 1811 Rensselaer county deed book 5, pgs.496-497

Indicates that land in possession of Benjamin Holt is conveyed to James Brookins.

Here it gets fuzzy because the Court of Common Pleas took a certification of this transaction by Martin Weatherwax who was then living in Peru NY. Possibly he traveled to Rensselaer county, but he would die within 2 years and it appears he would not have traveled that far but provided a written certification to the court.

So further research is needed to identify the land held in 1811 by James Brookins. It is noteworthy that Peter Weatherwax 1752-1805 is buried in the Brookins Family cemetery on  NY route 41 along with  James Brookins.

Peters property is rumored to be located near this site again in Schaghticoke. It seems a reasonable assumption that the reason Peter Weatherwax was buried in the present day Brookins Family cemetery is that prior to the land purchase by Brookins that this was in fact a Weatherwax family cemetery with only the tombstone of Peter Weatherwax remaining in present day. Why else would Brookins allow Peter Weatherwax to be buried there?